Comments on: Patriot Under Attack! http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/ news and views from uc berkeley Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:30:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: moonchylde http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-363 moonchylde Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:02:41 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-363 I agree with the critique of the photo; when has reducing ANYONE to their culture's 'hat', 'food' or 'costume' been considered open-minded and multi-cultural? What the heck is wrong with a nice picture of a lot of different types of people? Are people nothing more than the objects that represent them? You haven't really addressed that issue, just threw out the whole argument as stupid. Also, if someone has requested that you remove something of theirs, why be so rude about it? Is there a need to be a victim on your part? I agree with the critique of the photo; when has reducing ANYONE to their culture’s ‘hat’, ‘food’ or ‘costume’ been considered open-minded and multi-cultural?

What the heck is wrong with a nice picture of a lot of different types of people? Are people nothing more than the objects that represent them? You haven’t really addressed that issue, just threw out the whole argument as stupid.

Also, if someone has requested that you remove something of theirs, why be so rude about it? Is there a need to be a victim on your part?

]]> By: Hov http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-294 Hov Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:24:16 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-294 It was a suggestion based on the "signal-to-noise ratio" hitting absolute zero on Kynn's LiveJournal. If Kynn decides to bring that poor reasoning over to CalPatriot blog embarassment is sure to follow. It was a suggestion based on the “signal-to-noise ratio” hitting absolute zero on Kynn’s LiveJournal. If Kynn decides to bring that poor reasoning over to CalPatriot blog embarassment is sure to follow.

]]> By: GB http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-292 GB Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:48:56 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-292 Lynn, I disagree with Hov. Speak out and allow yourself to be heard (withou't MAKING yourself heard, if it's at the expense of allowing me to hear others). If you make a good point, or present an effective argument, I'll listen. If the signal-to-noise ratio dips too low, too frequently, I won't. If you speak Truth (whatever the heck that is), embarassment shouldn't be a concern. Lynn, I disagree with Hov.

Speak out and allow yourself to be heard (withou’t MAKING yourself heard, if it’s at the expense of allowing me to hear others).

If you make a good point, or present an effective argument, I’ll listen. If the signal-to-noise ratio dips too low, too frequently, I won’t.

If you speak Truth (whatever the heck that is), embarassment shouldn’t be a concern.

]]> By: Hov http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-288 Hov Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:38:52 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-288 Oh yeah, Kynn: I just read your LiveJournal and you've got the worst "Reasoning" that I've ever come across. Save yourself the embarassment and stop making yourself heard. Oh yeah, Kynn: I just read your LiveJournal and you’ve got the worst “Reasoning” that I’ve ever come across. Save yourself the embarassment and stop making yourself heard.

]]> By: Hov http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-287 Hov Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:15:47 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-287 Kynn, you're obviously confused, you can't be ethnically white. You can be ethnically German, or Italian, or Greek, or any other "white" ethnicity. In which case it would be easy to find representative symbols. Also, you can't use students on campus as a gauge of ethnic diversity...which is to say that multiculturalists don't. If you could simply rely on students there would be no need to have a learning center for it. In reality, this admits that "Student diversity" fails at being valuable for any other reason than "looking nice". Kynn, you’re obviously confused, you can’t be ethnically white. You can be ethnically German, or Italian, or Greek, or any other “white” ethnicity. In which case it would be easy to find representative symbols.

Also, you can’t use students on campus as a gauge of ethnic diversity…which is to say that multiculturalists don’t. If you could simply rely on students there would be no need to have a learning center for it. In reality, this admits that “Student diversity” fails at being valuable for any other reason than “looking nice”.

]]> By: Kynn Bartlett http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-286 Kynn Bartlett Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:50:55 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-286 <i>I suppose it’s a sign of cultural understanding if we deny that sombreros are traditional Mexican hats and kimonos are tradition Japanese garments. This guy is confused.</i> Question for you, how many students or others on campus wear kimonos and sombreros? Are you accurately representing students of different ethnicities, or are you stereotyping them? What would be a good representation of white students? A white hood, a Confederate flag, or...? I'm serious, I'd like to hear what you'd say. How would you represent a white person using the same symbols? --Kynn I suppose it’s a sign of cultural understanding if we deny that sombreros are traditional Mexican hats and kimonos are tradition Japanese garments. This guy is confused.

Question for you, how many students or others on campus wear kimonos and sombreros?

Are you accurately representing students of different ethnicities, or are you stereotyping them?

What would be a good representation of white students? A white hood, a Confederate flag, or…? I’m serious, I’d like to hear what you’d say. How would you represent a white person using the same symbols?

–Kynn

]]> By: Kynn Bartlett http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-285 Kynn Bartlett Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:47:50 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/02/17/patriot-under-attack/#comment-285 That was a pretty weak fisking. --K That was a pretty weak fisking.

–K

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