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		<title>By: colleen akai</title>
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		<dc:creator>colleen akai</dc:creator>
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		<description>What's at Stake in Academia 

Alan Jones, Dean of Faculty, Pitzer College
09/04/05

This summer, a colleague of mine, a president at one of the top liberal arts colleges in the country announced to a national conference of her colleagues that we, as a body need to recognize that "we are at war". She was responding to a call from some quarters at the meeting for more civil discourse and compromise on campus. What drove her to take such a radical stand in a body not known for taking radical stands ? She had come to realize that there was no choice, that people of conscience in the Academy are under attack and there is no more room for compromise.

When someone is threatening to burn down your house, you can't politely suggest to them that a workable compromise might be for them to burn down only the left side of your house. You have to fight, and there is no bargaining.

What is at stake is at the very heart of what we do in the Academy--reasoned thought and critical, independent thinking. Our process is not driven by loyalty to any individual or tied to a particular religious or ideological agenda. This commitment is to truth, and to the application of reason and empirical methodologies to determine what is true, is unacceptable to the Bush administration. In the words of a senior Bush advisor to New York Times reporter, Ron Suskind, guys like you [Suskind] exist in "what we call the reality based community", which he went on to define as "people who believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernable reality". When Suskind started to agree, the aide cut him off and said, "that's not the way the world works anymore. We're an empire now. When we act, we create our own reality, and while you're studying the reality, we'll act again, creating new realities." The empire that George W. Bush inhabits is becoming, in some ways, like that of the Imperial Pharaohs and Caesars, a dangerous brew of narrow egocentrism and messianic delusion.

In the same article, Suskind informs readers that Bush, in speaking to Amish farmers in Lancaster County, PA, said "I trust that God speaks through me." In the fragile world constructed out of such absolutes, individuals or institutions that question the President's fundamental(ist) vision or the facts that support it, cannot be tolerated. As the bumper sticker says: "God said it, I believe it, that's that". Truth is, after all, directly imparted and the task of the true believer is not to question or refine that truth but to maintain and assert it in spite of the overwhelming evidence that contradicts it.

The contradiction between faith based and inquiry based epistemologies is fundamental. Questions of justice and truth emerging from within the Academy through a thoughtful process of empirical investigation and reasoned analysis are at best, irrelevant to the President's reality and, at worst, hostile to his vision for carrying out god's work. The objective fact that there never were weapons of mass destruction and that Saddam never did pose a threat to the American people is irrelevant. Their existence became a part of the reality that allowed him to act on his vision of invading Iraq.

For followers of the President, the task is not to weigh the merits of his decisions or to evaluate the facts that support his position. The task is to have faith in him, despite the facts. So where does that leave the academic community, firmly committed to the pursuit of truth through the mechanisms of critical thinking, empirical research and the formal application of reason? Inevitably, it plants us squarely in the camp of what his aide referred to as the reality based community. Since members of the academic community have not infrequently questioned the merits and rationality of his "received wisdom" , our community has increasingly been viewed as disloyal to the president's vision directly, and to god's plan, indirectly.

So, what does the administration do? With enormous financial support from the Olin Foundation, The Scaife Foundation, and the Bradley Fund, and with the political backing from Carl Rove and Tom Delay, David Horowitz and his Center for the Study of popular culture have unleashed a vicious attack on higher education in this country. Graham Larkin of the California AAUP and Stanford University, describes Horowitz's techniques as "ranging from cooked statistics, race baiting and guilt by association to editorial foul play". (Inside Higher Education "Horowitz's War on Rational Discourse")

Evidence for this latter charge is reinforced by Michael Berube of Penn State University. Berube describes an on-line debate that he had with Horowitz on Horowitz's FrontPage Blog site. In transcribing the debate, Horowitz excised large portions of Berube's comments (without informing him) in a manner that rendered Berube's arguments incoherent. In a debate with Larkin, Horowitz asserted that his ABOR bill had the backing of progressives like Stanley Fish, Todd Gitlin and Berube. When Larkin contacted these individuals to confirm this, they were incredulous. Horowitz had simply lied. The facts apparently did not did not fit with Horowitz's rapidly developing reality. Even when Larkin confronted Horowitz with the lie and cited their numerous objections to the ABOR, Horowitz, more vehemently continued to assert the "fact" of their support.

Although Horowitz carefully couches the language of his bill in the rhetoric of free speech and academic freedom, principals no self-respecting academic could resist, imbedded within this unctuous language however, is a Horowitzian statement of "truth" that the academy is an unrepentant repository of leftist bias, and that conservative students are the objects of unrelenting politically inspired indoctrination - An accusation for which he can muster only the most shameful form of anecdotal support. Horowitz goes on to assert a second truth. Since Colleges and Universities are incapable of addressing this issue themselves, legislative intervention is necessary - hence the Acaadeamic Bill of Rights (ABOR)

These bills, although their form varies from state to state, guarantee that whatever belief (truth) a student asserts (particularly if they are conservative beliefs), they have a right to assert it. The unexamined truth thereby becomes protected speech. Something is true simply because the student believes that it is true. In this version of reality all such assertions of truth have equal merit and are deserving of a faculty member's respect. A faculty member, who challenges such a statement on the basis of failures in its logical underpinnings, now runs the risk of having the student file a charge of bias. This pernicious bill then, guts the ability of a faculty member to engage and challenge students in the kind of rigorous logical debate that has characterized the Academy for 400 years. It undermines the ability of faculty to nurture and develop in students precisely the kind of critical thinking skills that will be necessary to challenge the "received wisdom" orthodoxy of the Bush administration.

Although Horowitz has continuously assured faculty in various venues that he has no desire to impose outside oversight to what goes on in their classrooms, bills have been introduced into legislatures in 18 states, and Horowitz nearly did back-flips when HR177 (an ABOR-like resolution) passed the Pennsylvania House in July. One passage in this bill is particularly noteworthy:


"Resolved that if an individual makes an allegation against a faculty member claiming bias, the faculty member must be given at least 48 hours notices of the specifics of the allegation prior to the testimony being given and be given an opportunity to testify at the same hearing as the individual making the allegation."

So, a select committee appointed by the Pennsylvania State Legislature will now investigate all charges of political bias in the classroom - a select subcommittee of the state legislature, a partisan appointed committee, will be charged with insuring against political bias in the classroom. The ABOR has nothing to do with insuring an open atmosphere for the free exchange of ideas and the promotion of critical thinking and thereby enriching the Academy. It is designed, in fact, to do exactly the opposite. It is designed as Horowitz says "not to refute your opponent's arguments but to wipe him from the face of the earth" (in The Art of Political War)

The Academy has been slow to recognize and to respond to the Bush Administration's attack on rational discourse and critical thinking, but it is coming around. The highly publicized and vicious attacks on University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill, for his political views, were a wake-up call. I and hundreds of my colleagues have been organizing to resist the attacks on him and on the Academy in general. We have generated a petition of support for Churchill that has thus far gathered over 600 faculty signatures. We have a website and list serve to communicate with one another. We have formed discussion groups to educate ourselves about the apparent war that is being waged against us, and we are beginning to write about the fraudulent nature of this attack. We are encouraged that, given the level of outraged vitriol in the attacks on Churchill and calls for his dismissal, initially on charges of sedition, by the Governors of two states and by David Horowitz, his students, in the midst of this, voted him a distinguished teaching award. Perhaps they have developed critical thinking skills after all.

Alan Jones
Dean of Faculty
Pitzer College</description>
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<p>Alan Jones, Dean of Faculty, Pitzer College<br />
09/04/05</p>
<p>This summer, a colleague of mine, a president at one of the top liberal arts colleges in the country announced to a national conference of her colleagues that we, as a body need to recognize that &#8220;we are at war&#8221;. She was responding to a call from some quarters at the meeting for more civil discourse and compromise on campus. What drove her to take such a radical stand in a body not known for taking radical stands ? She had come to realize that there was no choice, that people of conscience in the Academy are under attack and there is no more room for compromise.</p>
<p>When someone is threatening to burn down your house, you can&#8217;t politely suggest to them that a workable compromise might be for them to burn down only the left side of your house. You have to fight, and there is no bargaining.</p>
<p>What is at stake is at the very heart of what we do in the Academy&#8211;reasoned thought and critical, independent thinking. Our process is not driven by loyalty to any individual or tied to a particular religious or ideological agenda. This commitment is to truth, and to the application of reason and empirical methodologies to determine what is true, is unacceptable to the Bush administration. In the words of a senior Bush advisor to New York Times reporter, Ron Suskind, guys like you [Suskind] exist in &#8220;what we call the reality based community&#8221;, which he went on to define as &#8220;people who believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernable reality&#8221;. When Suskind started to agree, the aide cut him off and said, &#8220;that&#8217;s not the way the world works anymore. We&#8217;re an empire now. When we act, we create our own reality, and while you&#8217;re studying the reality, we&#8217;ll act again, creating new realities.&#8221; The empire that George W. Bush inhabits is becoming, in some ways, like that of the Imperial Pharaohs and Caesars, a dangerous brew of narrow egocentrism and messianic delusion.</p>
<p>In the same article, Suskind informs readers that Bush, in speaking to Amish farmers in Lancaster County, PA, said &#8220;I trust that God speaks through me.&#8221; In the fragile world constructed out of such absolutes, individuals or institutions that question the President&#8217;s fundamental(ist) vision or the facts that support it, cannot be tolerated. As the bumper sticker says: &#8220;God said it, I believe it, that&#8217;s that&#8221;. Truth is, after all, directly imparted and the task of the true believer is not to question or refine that truth but to maintain and assert it in spite of the overwhelming evidence that contradicts it.</p>
<p>The contradiction between faith based and inquiry based epistemologies is fundamental. Questions of justice and truth emerging from within the Academy through a thoughtful process of empirical investigation and reasoned analysis are at best, irrelevant to the President&#8217;s reality and, at worst, hostile to his vision for carrying out god&#8217;s work. The objective fact that there never were weapons of mass destruction and that Saddam never did pose a threat to the American people is irrelevant. Their existence became a part of the reality that allowed him to act on his vision of invading Iraq.</p>
<p>For followers of the President, the task is not to weigh the merits of his decisions or to evaluate the facts that support his position. The task is to have faith in him, despite the facts. So where does that leave the academic community, firmly committed to the pursuit of truth through the mechanisms of critical thinking, empirical research and the formal application of reason? Inevitably, it plants us squarely in the camp of what his aide referred to as the reality based community. Since members of the academic community have not infrequently questioned the merits and rationality of his &#8220;received wisdom&#8221; , our community has increasingly been viewed as disloyal to the president&#8217;s vision directly, and to god&#8217;s plan, indirectly.</p>
<p>So, what does the administration do? With enormous financial support from the Olin Foundation, The Scaife Foundation, and the Bradley Fund, and with the political backing from Carl Rove and Tom Delay, David Horowitz and his Center for the Study of popular culture have unleashed a vicious attack on higher education in this country. Graham Larkin of the California AAUP and Stanford University, describes Horowitz&#8217;s techniques as &#8220;ranging from cooked statistics, race baiting and guilt by association to editorial foul play&#8221;. (Inside Higher Education &#8220;Horowitz&#8217;s War on Rational Discourse&#8221;)</p>
<p>Evidence for this latter charge is reinforced by Michael Berube of Penn State University. Berube describes an on-line debate that he had with Horowitz on Horowitz&#8217;s FrontPage Blog site. In transcribing the debate, Horowitz excised large portions of Berube&#8217;s comments (without informing him) in a manner that rendered Berube&#8217;s arguments incoherent. In a debate with Larkin, Horowitz asserted that his ABOR bill had the backing of progressives like Stanley Fish, Todd Gitlin and Berube. When Larkin contacted these individuals to confirm this, they were incredulous. Horowitz had simply lied. The facts apparently did not did not fit with Horowitz&#8217;s rapidly developing reality. Even when Larkin confronted Horowitz with the lie and cited their numerous objections to the ABOR, Horowitz, more vehemently continued to assert the &#8220;fact&#8221; of their support.</p>
<p>Although Horowitz carefully couches the language of his bill in the rhetoric of free speech and academic freedom, principals no self-respecting academic could resist, imbedded within this unctuous language however, is a Horowitzian statement of &#8220;truth&#8221; that the academy is an unrepentant repository of leftist bias, and that conservative students are the objects of unrelenting politically inspired indoctrination - An accusation for which he can muster only the most shameful form of anecdotal support. Horowitz goes on to assert a second truth. Since Colleges and Universities are incapable of addressing this issue themselves, legislative intervention is necessary - hence the Acaadeamic Bill of Rights (ABOR)</p>
<p>These bills, although their form varies from state to state, guarantee that whatever belief (truth) a student asserts (particularly if they are conservative beliefs), they have a right to assert it. The unexamined truth thereby becomes protected speech. Something is true simply because the student believes that it is true. In this version of reality all such assertions of truth have equal merit and are deserving of a faculty member&#8217;s respect. A faculty member, who challenges such a statement on the basis of failures in its logical underpinnings, now runs the risk of having the student file a charge of bias. This pernicious bill then, guts the ability of a faculty member to engage and challenge students in the kind of rigorous logical debate that has characterized the Academy for 400 years. It undermines the ability of faculty to nurture and develop in students precisely the kind of critical thinking skills that will be necessary to challenge the &#8220;received wisdom&#8221; orthodoxy of the Bush administration.</p>
<p>Although Horowitz has continuously assured faculty in various venues that he has no desire to impose outside oversight to what goes on in their classrooms, bills have been introduced into legislatures in 18 states, and Horowitz nearly did back-flips when HR177 (an ABOR-like resolution) passed the Pennsylvania House in July. One passage in this bill is particularly noteworthy:</p>
<p>&#8220;Resolved that if an individual makes an allegation against a faculty member claiming bias, the faculty member must be given at least 48 hours notices of the specifics of the allegation prior to the testimony being given and be given an opportunity to testify at the same hearing as the individual making the allegation.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, a select committee appointed by the Pennsylvania State Legislature will now investigate all charges of political bias in the classroom - a select subcommittee of the state legislature, a partisan appointed committee, will be charged with insuring against political bias in the classroom. The ABOR has nothing to do with insuring an open atmosphere for the free exchange of ideas and the promotion of critical thinking and thereby enriching the Academy. It is designed, in fact, to do exactly the opposite. It is designed as Horowitz says &#8220;not to refute your opponent&#8217;s arguments but to wipe him from the face of the earth&#8221; (in The Art of Political War)</p>
<p>The Academy has been slow to recognize and to respond to the Bush Administration&#8217;s attack on rational discourse and critical thinking, but it is coming around. The highly publicized and vicious attacks on University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill, for his political views, were a wake-up call. I and hundreds of my colleagues have been organizing to resist the attacks on him and on the Academy in general. We have generated a petition of support for Churchill that has thus far gathered over 600 faculty signatures. We have a website and list serve to communicate with one another. We have formed discussion groups to educate ourselves about the apparent war that is being waged against us, and we are beginning to write about the fraudulent nature of this attack. We are encouraged that, given the level of outraged vitriol in the attacks on Churchill and calls for his dismissal, initially on charges of sedition, by the Governors of two states and by David Horowitz, his students, in the midst of this, voted him a distinguished teaching award. Perhaps they have developed critical thinking skills after all.</p>
<p>Alan Jones<br />
Dean of Faculty<br />
Pitzer College</p>
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		<title>By: colleen akai</title>
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		<dc:creator>colleen akai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUSH, HITLER. . . AND YOU
Revolution #019, October 23, 2005, posted at revcom.us

"People look at all this and think of Hitler--and they are right to do so. The Bush regime is setting out to radically remake society very quickly, in a fascist way, and for generations to come. We must act now; the future is in the balance."

From the Call for November 2

If you had gone to sleep five years ago and woken up today, you’d be shocked to find that a president had come to power without winning the election and that:

The U.S. was in a bloody occupation of Iraq, after an illegal war justified by lies, that had already cost 100,000 lives; 
The White House had dismissed the Geneva Conventions as "quaint" and had threatened to veto a bill that would outlaw the torture of prisoners of war; 
The President had the right to detain anyone, indefinitely and without a trial or even charges, if he merely said that person might be a "terrorist"; 
A mass movement aiming for theocracy and actively enforcing religious dogma in the public sphere was riding high and had systematically put its people into many positions of military, judicial, and political power; 
Free inquiry had been stifled in the media and was rapidly being suppressed in academia; 
There was an aggressive, unapologetic demonization of immigrants, Muslims, gay people, Black people and anyone else who stood in the way of this fascist vision of a "new normalcy"; 
Women were being shoved back into traditional roles, with even the right to abortion in serious danger. 
Well, you didn’t go to sleep . . . but it is time to wake up. It’s all going on now and it has to be stopped.

No, American fascism is not goose-stepping down our streets in funny mustaches. But the bedrock convictions, the inner logic, and the compulsions driving it forward are just as serious and deadly as what went down in Germany. And the people in power now--the Bush Regime-- are hell-bent on this course.

Hitler achieved power in January of 1933. But it would be another eight years before he set the "final solution"--the death camps--into motion. In other words, there is a process by which people are led down a path. WE MUST STOP THAT PROCESS NOW. How much further does it have to go before you recognize it for what it is, and act?

Yes, it will take a huge struggle to stop and reverse the horrific direction of U.S. society under the Bush regime. You are not going to "pendulum-swing" your way out of that.

But there IS a way. It begins with facing reality, resisting, and mobilizing others to resist. And it takes a leap on November 2, with thousands and tens of thousands marching through the streets, demanding:

THE WORLD CAN’T WAIT! DRIVE OUT THE BUSH REGIME!

MOBILIZE NOVEMBER 2

Download PDF version</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUSH, HITLER. . . AND YOU<br />
Revolution #019, October 23, 2005, posted at revcom.us</p>
<p>&#8220;People look at all this and think of Hitler&#8211;and they are right to do so. The Bush regime is setting out to radically remake society very quickly, in a fascist way, and for generations to come. We must act now; the future is in the balance.&#8221;</p>
<p>From the Call for November 2</p>
<p>If you had gone to sleep five years ago and woken up today, you’d be shocked to find that a president had come to power without winning the election and that:</p>
<p>The U.S. was in a bloody occupation of Iraq, after an illegal war justified by lies, that had already cost 100,000 lives;<br />
The White House had dismissed the Geneva Conventions as &#8220;quaint&#8221; and had threatened to veto a bill that would outlaw the torture of prisoners of war;<br />
The President had the right to detain anyone, indefinitely and without a trial or even charges, if he merely said that person might be a &#8220;terrorist&#8221;;<br />
A mass movement aiming for theocracy and actively enforcing religious dogma in the public sphere was riding high and had systematically put its people into many positions of military, judicial, and political power;<br />
Free inquiry had been stifled in the media and was rapidly being suppressed in academia;<br />
There was an aggressive, unapologetic demonization of immigrants, Muslims, gay people, Black people and anyone else who stood in the way of this fascist vision of a &#8220;new normalcy&#8221;;<br />
Women were being shoved back into traditional roles, with even the right to abortion in serious danger.<br />
Well, you didn’t go to sleep . . . but it is time to wake up. It’s all going on now and it has to be stopped.</p>
<p>No, American fascism is not goose-stepping down our streets in funny mustaches. But the bedrock convictions, the inner logic, and the compulsions driving it forward are just as serious and deadly as what went down in Germany. And the people in power now&#8211;the Bush Regime&#8211; are hell-bent on this course.</p>
<p>Hitler achieved power in January of 1933. But it would be another eight years before he set the &#8220;final solution&#8221;&#8211;the death camps&#8211;into motion. In other words, there is a process by which people are led down a path. WE MUST STOP THAT PROCESS NOW. How much further does it have to go before you recognize it for what it is, and act?</p>
<p>Yes, it will take a huge struggle to stop and reverse the horrific direction of U.S. society under the Bush regime. You are not going to &#8220;pendulum-swing&#8221; your way out of that.</p>
<p>But there IS a way. It begins with facing reality, resisting, and mobilizing others to resist. And it takes a leap on November 2, with thousands and tens of thousands marching through the streets, demanding:</p>
<p>THE WORLD CAN’T WAIT! DRIVE OUT THE BUSH REGIME!</p>
<p>MOBILIZE NOVEMBER 2</p>
<p>Download PDF version</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others have commented, the World Can't Wait campaign is a product of the Revolutionary Communist Party, the group which runs Revolution Books, and is basically a Bob Avakian cult.  The Berkeley Stop The War Coalition and the I.S.O. do not take these people very seriously</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have commented, the World Can&#8217;t Wait campaign is a product of the Revolutionary Communist Party, the group which runs Revolution Books, and is basically a Bob Avakian cult.  The Berkeley Stop The War Coalition and the I.S.O. do not take these people very seriously</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/10/12/resist-or-die/#comment-2146</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon, you're wrong. Liberalism in American had its high point in the 1970s, and has been in decline since then. The ideas of the Left, from socializing medicine, nationalizing production, massive taxation, a huge welfare state, all of them have been exposed as failures and are being discarded in every healthy economy in the world. Where they remain, as in western continental Europe, or failed communist states,  the economies are stagnant or failing. The tyranny of political correctness, thought-crimes, and speech codes is being discarded and challenged as well. The identity politics of racial beancounting, race-based affirmative action, perpetual victimhood for non-whites, and all the rest of the baggage of Leftistm, is being rejected everywhere. The Left still dreams of marching boldly into the past (witness Dellums running for mayor of Oakland), but it's a lost cause. The Left is out of ideas, out of steam, and out of time. The demographics in this country show that Leftists are in perpetual decline and will be for the forseeable future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, you&#8217;re wrong. Liberalism in American had its high point in the 1970s, and has been in decline since then. The ideas of the Left, from socializing medicine, nationalizing production, massive taxation, a huge welfare state, all of them have been exposed as failures and are being discarded in every healthy economy in the world. Where they remain, as in western continental Europe, or failed communist states,  the economies are stagnant or failing. The tyranny of political correctness, thought-crimes, and speech codes is being discarded and challenged as well. The identity politics of racial beancounting, race-based affirmative action, perpetual victimhood for non-whites, and all the rest of the baggage of Leftistm, is being rejected everywhere. The Left still dreams of marching boldly into the past (witness Dellums running for mayor of Oakland), but it&#8217;s a lost cause. The Left is out of ideas, out of steam, and out of time. The demographics in this country show that Leftists are in perpetual decline and will be for the forseeable future.</p>
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		<title>By: HB</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/10/12/resist-or-die/#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator>HB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/10/12/resist-or-die/#comment-2145</guid>
		<description>From the website:
"Your government is moving each day closer to a theocracy, where a narrow and hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism will rule."


All I can say is: "ohhh pah-leeese!!!"

Of all the people to buy into Bush talking points, hahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the website:<br />
&#8220;Your government is moving each day closer to a theocracy, where a narrow and hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism will rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>All I can say is: &#8220;ohhh pah-leeese!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Of all the people to buy into Bush talking points, hahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: Beetle</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/10/12/resist-or-die/#comment-2144</link>
		<dc:creator>Beetle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm... they won't care, if experience tells us anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230; they won&#8217;t care, if experience tells us anything.</p>
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		<title>By: patr</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2005/10/12/resist-or-die/#comment-2143</link>
		<dc:creator>patr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work. You can follow that Wikipedia article to his site, &lt;a href="http://www.dissident.info/" rel="nofollow"&gt;dissident.info&lt;/a&gt; and check up on his connection with local commie celebrity, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Avakian" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bob Avakian&lt;/a&gt;.

I don't see this movement gathering any steam... but if it does, how will people feel when they find out they are supporting a Maoist revolutionary front group?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work. You can follow that Wikipedia article to his site, <a href="http://www.dissident.info/" rel="nofollow">dissident.info</a> and check up on his connection with local commie celebrity, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Avakian" rel="nofollow">Bob Avakian</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see this movement gathering any steam&#8230; but if it does, how will people feel when they find out they are supporting a Maoist revolutionary front group?</p>
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