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	<title>Comments on: Manifesto against Islamic Totalitarianism</title>
	<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Agora</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3980</link>
		<dc:creator>Agora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Death Threat against signers of Manifesto...&lt;/strong&gt;

	I have covered the Manifesto here. Here the leader of the Danish People&#8217;s Party adds her signature. Here I link to a petition where you can sign the manifesto.
	Are you daring enough to do so?
	Death Threat against signers of Manifesto
	By Jørg...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Death Threat against signers of Manifesto&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	I have covered the Manifesto here. Here the leader of the Danish People&#8217;s Party adds her signature. Here I link to a petition where you can sign the manifesto.<br />
	Are you daring enough to do so?<br />
	Death Threat against signers of Manifesto<br />
	By Jørg&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: what</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3830</link>
		<dc:creator>what</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3830</guid>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Qu'ran goes to court&lt;/b&gt;. 


NGO’s in Germany wants the Koran tested by courts if it is unconstitutional - 


Bundesverband der Bürgerbewegungen (BVB) in Germany  (NGO’s) has turned cases over to the police in several states in Germany to test at several courts if the &lt;a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Koran&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is against the constitution.

They have done it in Hamburg, Niedersachsen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Bayern and probably more states.


&lt;a href="http://www.jp.dk/udland/artikel:aid=3599524/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Koranen anmeldt til politiet i Tyskland&lt;/a&gt; Af KENT OLSEN Jyllands-Postens korrespondent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Qu&#8217;ran goes to court</b>. </p>
<p>NGO’s in Germany wants the Koran tested by courts if it is unconstitutional - </p>
<p>Bundesverband der Bürgerbewegungen (BVB) in Germany  (NGO’s) has turned cases over to the police in several states in Germany to test at several courts if the <a><b><i>Koran</i></b></a> is against the constitution.</p>
<p>They have done it in Hamburg, Niedersachsen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Bayern and probably more states.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jp.dk/udland/artikel:aid=3599524/" rel="nofollow">Koranen anmeldt til politiet i Tyskland</a> Af KENT OLSEN Jyllands-Postens korrespondent.</p>
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		<title>By: Agora</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3782</link>
		<dc:creator>Agora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3782</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Manifesto of Freedom...&lt;/strong&gt;

	Though I disagree with the leader of the Danish People&#8217;s Party on many points, I must say that there is more sense in her than in all the Social Democrats in Denmark put together. I bring to you here her weekly newsletter, translated from Danish...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Manifesto of Freedom&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	Though I disagree with the leader of the Danish People&#8217;s Party on many points, I must say that there is more sense in her than in all the Social Democrats in Denmark put together. I bring to you here her weekly newsletter, translated from Danish&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Agora</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3781</link>
		<dc:creator>Agora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3781</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Quran reported to the Police...&lt;/strong&gt;

	It seems the Quran is under indictment in Germany. This entry will be updated. The article below is from Jyllands-Posten today:
	The Quran reported to the Police
	By Kent Olsen, correspondent to Jyllands-Posten

A broad alliance of grass-roots movemen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Quran reported to the Police&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	It seems the Quran is under indictment in Germany. This entry will be updated. The article below is from Jyllands-Posten today:<br />
	The Quran reported to the Police<br />
	By Kent Olsen, correspondent to Jyllands-Posten</p>
<p>A broad alliance of grass-roots movemen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Agora</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3685</link>
		<dc:creator>Agora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3685</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Support the Manifesto online by signing this petition....&lt;/strong&gt;

	The Manifesto I covered in this post can now be supported online at this site. Don&#8217;t wait. Sign today.&#160;It&#8217;s target audience is the White House and the United Nations. I now ask all those bloggers who reposted this Manifesto to spread ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Support the Manifesto online by signing this petition&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>	The Manifesto I covered in this post can now be supported online at this site. Don&#8217;t wait. Sign today.&nbsp;It&#8217;s target audience is the White House and the United Nations. I now ask all those bloggers who reposted this Manifesto to spread &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Star Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3532</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Star Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 05:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3532</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Manifesto Against Islam...&lt;/strong&gt;

Solidarity. The 12 people who wrote and signed this document know very well the risk they take. We need to send a clear message that they don't stand alone....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Manifesto Against Islam&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Solidarity. The 12 people who wrote and signed this document know very well the risk they take. We need to send a clear message that they don&#8217;t stand alone&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: patr</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3529</link>
		<dc:creator>patr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/02/28/manifesto-against-islamic-totalitarianism/#comment-3529</guid>
		<description>Fundamentalist Christians and Muslims may share a bit in common when considering what they would do if they had total power, but it's clear that the Muslims would rule with a harder fist. In Iran, for instance, you can be stoned to death for being a homosexual. Whereas the proper "Christian" method of dealing would merely be prison time and perhaps forced hormone injections. We clearly prefer a Christian theocracy...

Actually, let's have neither. We can have a moral society without bringing religion into the picture. You don't need to believe in the Ten Commandments to know that murder is wrong. It's an easy principle the religious and non-religious can accept: don't purposely harm people or their property. Likewise, if an act is personally against your religion but does not harm anyone else, then you have no basis to ask for that act to be made illegal. As in my example above: homosexual acts. A more trivial example: dietary prohibitions. I'm Catholic, and Lent started today. I'm not supposed to eat meat on Fridays. I don't want the government to be enforcing that, one way or another. It offends me that the government can regulate what adults put in their bodies, even if whatever it is is a religious no-no. Individuals can enforce their own moral codes separately from society's.

Finally, abortion and gay marriage. There are perfectly good secular arguments against abortion. We can argue that a human life is being harmed against its will, especially in the latter trimesters. I personally don't support abortion, but I haven't done much research into it or consider it one of my top political issues. Hopefully someone will figure it out. As for gay marriage, we don't need the government involved in marriage at all. Adults should be able to marry through their churches or through other private organizations. If church X doesn't want to marry gays, then fine. If they do, then fine too. I couldn't care less. But if we are going to have government involved in marriages, then it seems pretty discriminatory not to let them marry. Just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fundamentalist Christians and Muslims may share a bit in common when considering what they would do if they had total power, but it&#8217;s clear that the Muslims would rule with a harder fist. In Iran, for instance, you can be stoned to death for being a homosexual. Whereas the proper &#8220;Christian&#8221; method of dealing would merely be prison time and perhaps forced hormone injections. We clearly prefer a Christian theocracy&#8230;</p>
<p>Actually, let&#8217;s have neither. We can have a moral society without bringing religion into the picture. You don&#8217;t need to believe in the Ten Commandments to know that murder is wrong. It&#8217;s an easy principle the religious and non-religious can accept: don&#8217;t purposely harm people or their property. Likewise, if an act is personally against your religion but does not harm anyone else, then you have no basis to ask for that act to be made illegal. As in my example above: homosexual acts. A more trivial example: dietary prohibitions. I&#8217;m Catholic, and Lent started today. I&#8217;m not supposed to eat meat on Fridays. I don&#8217;t want the government to be enforcing that, one way or another. It offends me that the government can regulate what adults put in their bodies, even if whatever it is is a religious no-no. Individuals can enforce their own moral codes separately from society&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Finally, abortion and gay marriage. There are perfectly good secular arguments against abortion. We can argue that a human life is being harmed against its will, especially in the latter trimesters. I personally don&#8217;t support abortion, but I haven&#8217;t done much research into it or consider it one of my top political issues. Hopefully someone will figure it out. As for gay marriage, we don&#8217;t need the government involved in marriage at all. Adults should be able to marry through their churches or through other private organizations. If church X doesn&#8217;t want to marry gays, then fine. If they do, then fine too. I couldn&#8217;t care less. But if we are going to have government involved in marriages, then it seems pretty discriminatory not to let them marry. Just my opinion.</p>
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