Monday, March 20th 2006
Ribbons on Sproul
To mark the three year anniversary of the war in Iraq, four members of BCR tied yellow ribbons to the trees on Sproul. While there were rallies planned in support of the troops and some against the war, the fickle Berkeley weather rained them out. Lets all hope and pray for the safety of the troops. 
Thanks to Amaury, Andrew, James, and Way-Jen.
We should not hope nor pray for their safety. We must demand our government to bring them home.
Comment by Mickey Klein — 3/21/2006 @ 8:23 am
Mickey, you are a Degenerocrat of the worst kind. Pray that the swath of destruction and vengeance that my brand of Guerilla Republicanism metes out in retribution for Leftist Crimes against Society never crosses paths with you and your ignorant ilk.
Comment by Jihad Jimmy, Minister of War Crimes and Chief Defender of the Faith — 3/21/2006 @ 9:13 am
lol, we’ll see about that on election day jihad jimmy.
Comment by mickeyk — 3/21/2006 @ 9:17 am
yeah, “lol” you dumbfuck
I wasn’t talking about politics or some stupid election. Typical Leftist Lack of Reading Comprehension.
I’m talking about the Culture War which the Left started, but which normal, moderate people will be forced to finish. You and all of the Leftists here in the Bay Area however are cordially invited to sit fat, stupid, and unawares here in the apparent Leftist safe-haven. You think I’m kidding? Hey, that’s fine. =) lol, right?
You can have all the elections you want, Degenerocrat, see if I give a fuck. The Left will just muck up government again because that’s their forte.
Comment by Jihad Jimmy, Minister of War Crimes and Chief Defender of the Faith — 3/21/2006 @ 9:41 am
I do not support the leftist parties in America. I would like to see the Libertarians in power.
I believe the Democrats will win the next election and then proceed to fuck things up once people realize that their ideology is muddled and obsolete. It is then that the real political battle can begin.
Comment by mickeyk — 3/21/2006 @ 10:03 am
Mickey- I just have to ask- Do you KNOW anyone over there?? Or anyone serving active duty??
Comment by Tiffany — 3/21/2006 @ 10:33 am
No I do not. I have only spoken to veterans of the war.
Comment by Mickey Klein — 3/21/2006 @ 11:36 am
I am just wondering if that hasnt influenced your view because all the people I know who are or have been there and especially everyone I know who is serving active duty (who could end up in the Middle East) find it a noble cause. And while we all want our loved ones with us, they understand the NEED to finish the job.
Comment by Tiffany — 3/21/2006 @ 11:47 am
The military exists to execute policy, not to make it. I as a civilian oppose the war because it is not a feasible means of achieving our objectives.
Civilians did not need military aproval to start the war, nor do they need it to end it.
Noble causes are all well and good, but they can lead straight to disaster without a clear eye on the road ahead.
Comment by mickeyk — 3/21/2006 @ 12:02 pm
I’m not sure that they do. I agree that those in the military (many of them) agree that they want to finish the task (Zogby poll notwithstanding), but I wonder if many of them are confused as to what the original reason for going to war was.
Some thought in was in retaliation for 9/11, for instance! Or fighting for American security/freedom, which is really misleading if not completely inaccurate.
Ask them, how many American soldiers lives are worth rebuilding Iraq and establishing democracy.
In the end, without any good polling, none of us can be really sure how military personnel feel, because all we have is anecdotal evidence.
Comment by Archangel — 3/21/2006 @ 12:05 pm
In addition, the war was started over the objections of the Army Chief of Staff, General Shinseki, who argued that we did not have enough troops. Bush promptly fired him and put in his stead the more war hungry General Schoomaker.
Comment by mickeyk — 3/21/2006 @ 12:06 pm
16000 wounded (some very seriously), 2000 dead, (plus thousands of Iraqis), the world lost respect for our influenece, the deficit is growing, the borders and ports are unprotected…..but it’s all OK….. we tied ribbons around trees. How about taking some of that money and buying body armor for the troops, that would be really supporting them.
Comment by HB — 3/21/2006 @ 1:10 pm
Mickey, can’t you and Jihad Jimmy, Minister of War Crimes and Chief Defender of the Faith duke it out over email?
Comment by Archangel — 3/21/2006 @ 2:23 pm
” the world lost respect for our influenece, … How about taking some of that money and buying body armor for the troops,…”
The World? You’re speaking for the world? Buying body armor for the troops? Hey…John Kerry.. aren’t these talking points a little old?
Comment by Zibs the Bowler — 3/29/2006 @ 5:28 pm
Thank you Zibs
Comment by Tiffany — 4/1/2006 @ 5:30 pm