Comments on: Ribbons on Sproul http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/ news and views from uc berkeley Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:45:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Tiffany http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4723 Tiffany Sun, 02 Apr 2006 01:30:38 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4723 Thank you Zibs Thank you Zibs

]]> By: Zibs the Bowler http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4662 Zibs the Bowler Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:28:23 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4662 " the world lost respect for our influenece, ... How about taking some of that money and buying body armor for the troops,..." The World? You're speaking for the world? Buying body armor for the troops? Hey...John Kerry.. aren't these talking points a little old? ” the world lost respect for our influenece, … How about taking some of that money and buying body armor for the troops,…”

The World? You’re speaking for the world? Buying body armor for the troops? Hey…John Kerry.. aren’t these talking points a little old?

]]> By: Archangel http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4341 Archangel Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:23:42 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4341 Mickey, can't you and Jihad Jimmy, Minister of War Crimes and Chief Defender of the Faith duke it out over email? Mickey, can’t you and Jihad Jimmy, Minister of War Crimes and Chief Defender of the Faith duke it out over email?

]]> By: HB http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4336 HB Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:10:22 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4336 16000 wounded (some very seriously), 2000 dead, (plus thousands of Iraqis), the world lost respect for our influenece, the deficit is growing, the borders and ports are unprotected.....but it's all OK..... we tied ribbons around trees. How about taking some of that money and buying body armor for the troops, that would be really supporting them. 16000 wounded (some very seriously), 2000 dead, (plus thousands of Iraqis), the world lost respect for our influenece, the deficit is growing, the borders and ports are unprotected…..but it’s all OK….. we tied ribbons around trees. How about taking some of that money and buying body armor for the troops, that would be really supporting them.

]]> By: mickeyk http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4335 mickeyk Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:06:38 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4335 In addition, the war was started over the objections of the Army Chief of Staff, General Shinseki, who argued that we did not have enough troops. Bush promptly fired him and put in his stead the more war hungry General Schoomaker. In addition, the war was started over the objections of the Army Chief of Staff, General Shinseki, who argued that we did not have enough troops. Bush promptly fired him and put in his stead the more war hungry General Schoomaker.

]]> By: Archangel http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4334 Archangel Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:05:54 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4334 I'm not sure that they do. I agree that those in the military (many of them) agree that they want to finish the task (Zogby poll notwithstanding), but I wonder if many of them are confused as to what the original reason for going to war was. Some thought in was in retaliation for 9/11, for instance! Or fighting for American security/freedom, which is really misleading if not completely inaccurate. Ask them, how many American soldiers lives are worth rebuilding Iraq and establishing democracy. In the end, without any good polling, none of us can be really sure how military personnel feel, because all we have is anecdotal evidence. I’m not sure that they do. I agree that those in the military (many of them) agree that they want to finish the task (Zogby poll notwithstanding), but I wonder if many of them are confused as to what the original reason for going to war was.

Some thought in was in retaliation for 9/11, for instance! Or fighting for American security/freedom, which is really misleading if not completely inaccurate.

Ask them, how many American soldiers lives are worth rebuilding Iraq and establishing democracy.

In the end, without any good polling, none of us can be really sure how military personnel feel, because all we have is anecdotal evidence.

]]> By: mickeyk http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4333 mickeyk Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:02:19 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/03/20/ribbons-on-sproul/#comment-4333 The military exists to execute policy, not to make it. I as a civilian oppose the war because it is not a feasible means of achieving our objectives. Civilians did not need military aproval to start the war, nor do they need it to end it. Noble causes are all well and good, but they can lead straight to disaster without a clear eye on the road ahead. The military exists to execute policy, not to make it. I as a civilian oppose the war because it is not a feasible means of achieving our objectives.

Civilians did not need military aproval to start the war, nor do they need it to end it.

Noble causes are all well and good, but they can lead straight to disaster without a clear eye on the road ahead.

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