Comments on: Voter apathy kicks in http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/ news and views from uc berkeley Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:37:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: what http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7397 what Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:31:51 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7397 "That’s a nice gesture what, but democracy doesn’t guarantee equal treatment. " You are correct. But neither can any other system. The Founders wrote and understood that the system was flawed - that was not a secret. It just doesn't get brought up much. Kingship can be benevolent or tyrannical or between. Between direct democracy and one-man kingship, the U.S. government lays. Anyone like to propose a perfect utopia, please be my guest. “That’s a nice gesture what, but democracy doesn’t guarantee equal treatment. ”

You are correct. But neither can any other system. The Founders wrote and understood that the system was flawed - that was not a secret. It just doesn’t get brought up much. Kingship can be benevolent or tyrannical or between. Between direct democracy and one-man kingship, the U.S. government lays. Anyone like to propose a perfect utopia, please be my guest.

]]> By: patr http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7389 patr Fri, 02 Jun 2006 04:13:48 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7389 That's a nice gesture what, but democracy doesn't guarantee equal treatment. In it's purest form, a slight majority can oppress the minority. Even when certain inalienable rights are recognized, that's still no guarantee (slavery in America for example). Liberty and democracy aren't necessarily correlated. That’s a nice gesture what, but democracy doesn’t guarantee equal treatment. In it’s purest form, a slight majority can oppress the minority. Even when certain inalienable rights are recognized, that’s still no guarantee (slavery in America for example). Liberty and democracy aren’t necessarily correlated.

]]> By: what http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7388 what Fri, 02 Jun 2006 02:41:54 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7388 Funsize I already voted. I want to express my patriotism, not to one party but to the representative democracy in general. I would deplore living in Saudi Arabia under their inhuman treatment of women - professed by their oil-owning government. Funsize I already voted. I want to express my patriotism, not to one party but to the representative democracy in general. I would deplore living in Saudi Arabia under their inhuman treatment of women - professed by their oil-owning government.

]]> By: patr http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7382 patr Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:46:46 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7382 I'll admit that my vote might count for the propositions. I doubt that those races will be close though, though I haven't looked at any polling data. My main gripe is with the Republican primary. Governor: no real challenges to Arnold. I'm still undecided whether I'll vote for him or not in the Fall. Lt. Gov: McClintock is a shoo-in, which is good since he's the only GOP candidate I'd feel good about voting for. My vote won't matter in this race. Controller: This one actually seems like a race. I'd support Strickland over Maldonado since he seems the more fiscally conservative of the top two. But I've read some shady stories about him, so I don't know. Sec of State/Att. General/Insurance Commissioner: No choices there. Dems will win anyway. Senator: No choice yet again. Mountjoy doesn't represent my views so I'll be voting third party come Fall. Doesn't matter though since the guy doesn't even stand a chance against Feinstein. I’ll admit that my vote might count for the propositions. I doubt that those races will be close though, though I haven’t looked at any polling data.

My main gripe is with the Republican primary.

Governor: no real challenges to Arnold. I’m still undecided whether I’ll vote for him or not in the Fall.

Lt. Gov: McClintock is a shoo-in, which is good since he’s the only GOP candidate I’d feel good about voting for. My vote won’t matter in this race.

Controller: This one actually seems like a race. I’d support Strickland over Maldonado since he seems the more fiscally conservative of the top two. But I’ve read some shady stories about him, so I don’t know.

Sec of State/Att. General/Insurance Commissioner: No choices there. Dems will win anyway.

Senator: No choice yet again. Mountjoy doesn’t represent my views so I’ll be voting third party come Fall. Doesn’t matter though since the guy doesn’t even stand a chance against Feinstein.

]]> By: funsize http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7358 funsize Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:13:29 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7358 I was hoping this was satire, like this style of your posting tends to be. That's pretty disappointing Pat, isn't this what we complain about on campus constantly? What happened to voting as a civic duty and responsibility, whether or not "your vote counts"? Maybe this is what happens when we follow ASUC politics too closely. I was hoping this was satire, like this style of your posting tends to be. That’s pretty disappointing Pat, isn’t this what we complain about on campus constantly? What happened to voting as a civic duty and responsibility, whether or not “your vote counts”? Maybe this is what happens when we follow ASUC politics too closely.

]]> By: Beetle http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7354 Beetle Thu, 01 Jun 2006 02:13:02 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7354 Pre-school! Pre-school!

]]> By: John W. http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7353 John W. Thu, 01 Jun 2006 02:06:56 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/05/31/voter-apathy-kicks-in/#comment-7353 Open primaries would make June 6th a lot more fun. Open primaries would make June 6th a lot more fun.

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