Comments on: Goldwater on HBO! http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/ news and views from uc berkeley Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:03:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: patr http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8941 patr Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:31:04 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8941 You're right HB. Goldwater the Lesser hasn't yet reached Tancredo-level craziness yet (at least not publically). I still don't agree with forcing illegals to do hard labor. That seems like a punishment more suited for robbers and violent criminals. Some people consider illegal immigration to be a crime less than murder, though only by a hair, so I understand why such a punishment would be appealing. But when we look at the actual harm caused by illegals (excluding the side effects of big government socialism and the protectionist mindset), I think jaywalkers would be further ahead in the line to the camps. You’re right HB. Goldwater the Lesser hasn’t yet reached Tancredo-level craziness yet (at least not publically).

I still don’t agree with forcing illegals to do hard labor. That seems like a punishment more suited for robbers and violent criminals. Some people consider illegal immigration to be a crime less than murder, though only by a hair, so I understand why such a punishment would be appealing. But when we look at the actual harm caused by illegals (excluding the side effects of big government socialism and the protectionist mindset), I think jaywalkers would be further ahead in the line to the camps.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8934 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:33:49 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8934 ABCNews fell into the trap like good lefty sheeple. Good post HB, The EFE project is right behind the The Jayson Blair Project :) ABCNews fell into the trap like good lefty sheeple.

Good post HB,

The EFE project is right behind the The Jayson Blair Project :)

]]> By: HB http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8918 HB Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:36:33 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8918 Sorry to spoil your fun, but Goldwater 3.0 did not say anything to make a fool of himself. A mexican news service is always a good source regardless; it's right up there with the Mozambique Daily Herald. http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/28/D8IH0FE80.html This takes the cake: "The letter also acknowledged that the freelance reporter never interviewed Goldwater or any of his staff for the story." Sorry to spoil your fun, but Goldwater 3.0 did not say anything to make a fool of himself. A mexican news service is always a good source regardless; it’s right up there with the Mozambique Daily Herald.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/28/D8IH0FE80.html

This takes the cake: “The letter also acknowledged that the freelance reporter never interviewed Goldwater or any of his staff for the story.”

]]> By: Beetle http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8913 Beetle Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:00:40 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8913 Is it just me, or is writing it as "right to life" as if it's just normal English seem to say something somewhat different than the truth? "Once supported the right to life" sounds like a guy who used to believe people had the right to be alive, but nowadays tends to think people being killed isn't too big a deal in terms of rights. Is it just me, or is writing it as “right to life” as if it’s just normal English seem to say something somewhat different than the truth? “Once supported the right to life” sounds like a guy who used to believe people had the right to be alive, but nowadays tends to think people being killed isn’t too big a deal in terms of rights.

]]> By: Tommy Owens http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8910 Tommy Owens Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:10:32 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8910 On the issue of abortion I will respond with only with this quote. "According to former Arizona Right to Life executive director Jay Nenninger, Barry Goldwater once supported the right to life. In 1992, Nenninger produced a statement apparently signed by Goldwater in 1980, in which the former senator supported a human life amendment. Goldwater also "frequently voted against abortion" in the '70s." (Arizona Republic 8/7/92)." (http://phoenix.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/barry.html) On the issue of abortion I will respond with only with this quote.

“According to former Arizona Right to Life executive director Jay Nenninger, Barry Goldwater once supported the right to life. In 1992, Nenninger produced a statement apparently signed by Goldwater in 1980, in which the former senator supported a human life amendment. Goldwater also “frequently voted against abortion” in the ’70s.” (Arizona Republic 8/7/92).”

(http://phoenix.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/barry.html)

]]> By: patr http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8908 patr Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:55:34 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8908 Building upon that thought, I think it's interesting that so many sides are trying to claim him. This happens with the most respected politicians. Like how some Republicans think JFK would have been one today, or how some Democrats say Lincoln wouldn't be a Republican today. On the other hand, the most disliked politicians are disowned: Nixon and Bush are really liberals, Clinton is really a conservative, etc. Building upon that thought, I think it’s interesting that so many sides are trying to claim him. This happens with the most respected politicians. Like how some Republicans think JFK would have been one today, or how some Democrats say Lincoln wouldn’t be a Republican today. On the other hand, the most disliked politicians are disowned: Nixon and Bush are really liberals, Clinton is really a conservative, etc.

]]> By: patr http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8907 patr Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:47:19 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2006/06/26/goldwater-on-hbo/#comment-8907 The issue of whether Goldwater changed or the conservative movement changed is supposed to be covered in the movie. Apparently, libertarians and small government conservatives (such as George Will in the film) argue that Goldwater didn't change. Conversely, liberals are more likely to argue that he did change as he grew older. I think their tactic is to try and claim one of the most respected politicians away from conservatives. Something along the lines of: "Oh, he was really a liberal, so you should be a liberal too if you like him." The issue of whether Goldwater changed or the conservative movement changed is supposed to be covered in the movie. Apparently, libertarians and small government conservatives (such as George Will in the film) argue that Goldwater didn’t change. Conversely, liberals are more likely to argue that he did change as he grew older. I think their tactic is to try and claim one of the most respected politicians away from conservatives. Something along the lines of: “Oh, he was really a liberal, so you should be a liberal too if you like him.”

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