Sunday, February 18th 2007

Oh, man, he seriously said that???

Posted by James Fullmer @ 2:14 am
Under: College, Elections, General, Ideology

On facebook a few minutes ago, I ran across a clever satire of a group entitled “Illegals for Brownback.” Now, in the interest of full disclosure, I am both a strong supporter of Senator Brownback’s campaign for President and someone who is not exactly a “hard-liner” on illegal immigration. (I promised a while back in a comment thread I would explain this in a post some day, but I just haven’t gotten around to it.) So, granted, I’m not coming into this unbiased. I’m naturally going to be annoyed by a group that 1) disses my candidate for 2) a reason I don’t think he deserves to be dissed for. So, I’m not going to start a debate on illegal immigration here. I’m not going to ask you hardliners why it’s so bad that he supports what you would call “amnesty,” because I know exactly what you’ll say. That debate’s been done.

Here’s what I do want to know, though. The group does a cute job of pretending to be illegal immigrants grateful for some of the things more likely to give hardliners apoplexy; for example:

“Senator Brownback voted in favor of s. 2611 which would grant amnesty to most undocumented immigrants residing in the United States. It would also give us a chance to receive in-state college tuition rates. Furthermore, we would only have to pay a small fine and would even qualify for some benefits such as Earned Income Tax Credit.”

Okay, I understand the argument against those things. I’m sympathetic to some of those arguments myself. But then we get:

Senator Brownback recognizes the great contributions that Hispanic Americans make to our nation. He believes that, as a nation of immigrants, we should welcome those individuals who would like to come to this country legally and are willing to work hard for the American dream. Senator Brownback has also advocated small-business-friendly policies, which are making it possible for more and more Hispanic Americans and business owners to realize the American dream.

I mean…is this an attempt at smearing him? Judging by the way the group uses quotes of his, it would indeed appear to be, but…uh…am I just being an open-borders-sad-excuse-for-an-American here or is there nothing at all conceivably wrong with that statement???

I don’t think most hardliners are racists at all. In fact, while I am more on the open-borders side policy-wise, I think there are a lot more crazy people on my side. Most of the hardliners are very nice, decent people with whom I simply disagree, while a whole lot of open-borders people are multiculturalists who don’t give a darn for America’s unique identity. (Same problem with being an anti-Iraq War Republican - I may have agreed on policy with the anti-war crowd but my gosh most of them were idiots about it - but that’s a topic for another time.)

So, my hardliner friends, please tell me that this group is totally unrepresentative of you guys. Please.

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  1. Maybe they really are illegals for Brownback.

    Comment by Beetle — 2/18/2007 @ 11:20 am

  2. Have you really gotten your panties in a twist over a group with a grand total of… 5 people in it? What is that? Less than 0.00000025% of all of Facebook? Oh, the injustice.

    Comment by Yaman — 2/18/2007 @ 2:24 pm

  3. Well, I believe the group was founded last night…I’m just majorly on top of things, you know, finding it before people could even join it.

    No, I’m not saying it’s representative or anything - I’d just like to hear some Tancredo-ites confirm that.

    Comment by jfullmer — 2/18/2007 @ 5:00 pm

  4. Hi! Megan here, and as far as illegal immigration goes, I consider myself a hardliner. The “college tuition” bit especially resonates with me, as I’m an out-of-stater with a rather large bill to pay (err, my family and myself). Perhaps I should make a counterpoint post to you, James? Although I don’t care much about Brownback.

    Anyhow, it sounds like satire. I wouldn’t be too worried about it.

    Comment by megans — 2/20/2007 @ 6:49 pm

  5. No, see, that’s my point. It is satire, meaning they’re taking things that Brownback says that they see as negative (ie the college tuition thing) and pretending to be illegal immigrants who see them as positive, hence smearing Brownback.

    My question is why they included the whole “Senator Brownback recognizes the great contributions that Hispanic Americans make to our nation” thing with the statements about college tuition and the like. Do they really see that as negative?

    Comment by jfullmer — 2/20/2007 @ 8:28 pm

  6. Hmm. That is strange, especially considering that both the group’s admins are Hispanic Americans.

    I did click through to the website they reference, though, and think it’s too bad Brownback felt he had to write “position statements” on various minority groups. I also noticed he uses his “Asian Americans” and “African Americans” statements to justify foreign aid/intervention in Asia and Africa.

    Comment by Rohit J — 2/20/2007 @ 10:13 pm

  7. Actually, they’re “coalitions,” not “position statements.” Political coalitions are always minority groups - ethnic or otherwise - that have an interest a particular candidate champions. Bush-Cheney ‘04 had them, and all the 2008 candidates will have them if they don’t already. You’re fighting a losing battle if you have a problem with coalitions.

    And yes, Senator Brownback has been the foremost leader in the government today for standing up for the rights of oppressed and persecuted people in Darfur and North Korea, among others. I personally don’t see that as something to be ashamed of, but there’s no accounting for taste.

    Comment by jfullmer — 2/21/2007 @ 2:25 pm

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