Comments on: The Liberation of Berkeley http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/ news and views from uc berkeley Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: MondegreenMom http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/#comment-23685 MondegreenMom Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:59:00 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/#comment-23685 We kept score during the public commentary part of the 2/12/08 Berkeley City Council Meeting. Comments were divided into 4 categories: Pink, Red/White/Blue, Attention Seekers, and Those who commented on the Council without ever addressing the issue at hand. We also broke the numbers down before and after the 11 o'clock meeting extension time because we'd totalled the tallies before the extension was passed. Pink: 15 + 5 = 20 R/W/B: 31 + 17 = 48 Drama: 17 + 21 = 38 Council: 7 + 12 = 19 Even were every non R/W/B speaker to be anti-Marines (they weren't) the totals would be 48 pro to 77 anti. We didn't separate the voices that seemed confused or never got around to the topic at hand. I'd encourage everyone to go read the item on "Kitchen Democracy" (see Berkeley, "Should the City Council Affirm....") Numbers there are similar, only going the opposite direction. If the commenter above calls one display a "vast majority", I trust she'll call the other one one as well. We kept score during the public commentary part of the 2/12/08 Berkeley City Council Meeting. Comments were divided into 4 categories: Pink, Red/White/Blue, Attention Seekers, and Those who commented on the Council without ever addressing the issue at hand.

We also broke the numbers down before and after the 11 o’clock meeting extension time because we’d totalled the tallies before the extension was passed.

Pink: 15 + 5 = 20
R/W/B: 31 + 17 = 48
Drama: 17 + 21 = 38
Council: 7 + 12 = 19

Even were every non R/W/B speaker to be anti-Marines (they weren’t) the totals would be 48 pro to 77 anti.
We didn’t separate the voices that seemed confused or never got around to the topic at hand.

I’d encourage everyone to go read the item on “Kitchen Democracy” (see Berkeley, “Should the City Council Affirm….”) Numbers there are similar, only going the opposite direction. If the commenter above calls one display a “vast majority”, I trust she’ll call the other one one as well.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/#comment-23659 Anonymous Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:25:53 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/#comment-23659 Proud to say that most of the speakers at the Council meeting, the majority, and the vast majority of Berkeley residents who testified during the 2 hours of public comment period at that meeting, expressed pride in the Council for its action in calling out this country's obscene continuation of the Iraq war; and expressed appreciation for creating a much needed angry dialogue about this war; which absent having a draft, nobody has much cared about, not really. I am very proud of my son, 14, and of the other Berkeley High students who stood in the face of the right wing jerks who descended on our town. They did a great job on Tuesday. Personally I don't think that you can be against the war and "support the troops." Can you be against Hitler and support the Nazis? That's just absurd. They need to be brought home now. The great irony of course is that the anti-war people have more compassion for the hundreds of thousands of US military men and women who have come home physically and psychologically maimed, than the pro-war people who are just all the more willing to throw more and more lives into that endlessly futile meat-grinder; somehow living in peace with the insane logic that if many more thousands die in vain, that that will somehow mean that their child didn’t. Sick. Proud to say that most of the speakers at the Council meeting, the majority, and the vast majority of Berkeley residents who testified during the 2 hours of public comment period at that meeting, expressed pride in the Council for its action in calling out this country’s obscene continuation of the Iraq war; and expressed appreciation for creating a much needed angry dialogue about this war; which absent having a draft, nobody has much cared about, not really. I am very proud of my son, 14, and of the other Berkeley High students who stood in the face of the right wing jerks who descended on our town. They did a great job on Tuesday.

Personally I don’t think that you can be against the war and “support the troops.” Can you be against Hitler and support the Nazis? That’s just absurd. They need to be brought home now.

The great irony of course is that the anti-war people have more compassion for the hundreds of thousands of US military men and women who have come home physically and psychologically maimed, than the pro-war people who are just all the more willing to throw more and more lives into that endlessly futile meat-grinder; somehow living in peace with the insane logic that if many more thousands die in vain, that that will somehow mean that their child didn’t.

Sick.

]]> By: JEC http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/#comment-23656 JEC Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:41:30 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/#comment-23656 So this is how Berkeley and its City Council "support" the troops. With "friends" like Berkeley, who needs Al Queda? So this is how Berkeley and its City Council “support” the troops.
With “friends” like Berkeley, who needs Al Queda?

]]> By: Neocon News http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/#comment-23653 Neocon News Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:03:02 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/#comment-23653 <strong>Ad video illustrating the Berkeley insanity....</strong> (Via Michelle Malkin) This new ad by the National Republican Senatorial Committee is actually very good. I don’t know how you can watch it and not want to dish out some dough to combat stupidity like this. Eugh. Update 12:00PM CST: I didn&#8217... Ad video illustrating the Berkeley insanity….

(Via Michelle Malkin) This new ad by the National Republican Senatorial Committee is actually very good. I don’t know how you can watch it and not want to dish out some dough to combat stupidity like this.

Eugh.
Update 12:00PM CST: I didn&#8217…

]]> By: Michelle Malkin » What’s the matter with Toledo and Berkeley? http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/#comment-23651 Michelle Malkin » What’s the matter with Toledo and Berkeley? Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:26:01 +0000 http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/02/14/the-liberation-of-berkeley/#comment-23651 [...] The Cal Patriot has a follow-up report and video of Berkeley High School moonbats–the next generation of troop-haters: [...] […] The Cal Patriot has a follow-up report and video of Berkeley High School moonbats–the next generation of troop-haters: […]

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