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	<title>Comments on: The Sun Always Shines in Southern California - Except at UCLA</title>
	<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/09/08/the-sun-always-shines-in-southern-california-except-at-ucla/</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/09/08/the-sun-always-shines-in-southern-california-except-at-ucla/#comment-25432</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've wondered for awhile about those applicants who choose NOT to "check the box". What happens to them? Do the screeners become suspicious of these applicants? Are they assumed to be members of an ethnic group based on their names? 

As an aside, I did find it amusing back in the 80s when I was a grad student at Cal. In our department, we had news that a new grad student was coming in from Minnesota, who was "Native American". He showed up...blond and blue-eyed. Turns out he was 1/8 Chippewa. Some of our more liberal grad students thought he was "cheating" by passing himself off as Chippewa. Sorry, but when you play the "box" game these are the chances you take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve wondered for awhile about those applicants who choose NOT to &#8220;check the box&#8221;. What happens to them? Do the screeners become suspicious of these applicants? Are they assumed to be members of an ethnic group based on their names? </p>
<p>As an aside, I did find it amusing back in the 80s when I was a grad student at Cal. In our department, we had news that a new grad student was coming in from Minnesota, who was &#8220;Native American&#8221;. He showed up&#8230;blond and blue-eyed. Turns out he was 1/8 Chippewa. Some of our more liberal grad students thought he was &#8220;cheating&#8221; by passing himself off as Chippewa. Sorry, but when you play the &#8220;box&#8221; game these are the chances you take.</p>
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		<title>By: AVNevis</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/09/08/the-sun-always-shines-in-southern-california-except-at-ucla/#comment-25430</link>
		<dc:creator>AVNevis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no longer any in person interviews for applicants to UC schools (there are just too many). But I agree with your point.  There is a box on the application that asks applicants to list their race. But it does make you wonder, if the readers can't see it then why is it on the application?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no longer any in person interviews for applicants to UC schools (there are just too many). But I agree with your point.  There is a box on the application that asks applicants to list their race. But it does make you wonder, if the readers can&#8217;t see it then why is it on the application?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.californiapatriot.org/blog/2008/09/08/the-sun-always-shines-in-southern-california-except-at-ucla/#comment-25428</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might help if UC applications had no mention of race at all on the form. No boxes. No in person interviews, either. 

Perhaps the students' names should be removed as well. 

If the feds need stats for various fed reasons, then incoming students could fill out a "box" after they are admitted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might help if UC applications had no mention of race at all on the form. No boxes. No in person interviews, either. </p>
<p>Perhaps the students&#8217; names should be removed as well. </p>
<p>If the feds need stats for various fed reasons, then incoming students could fill out a &#8220;box&#8221; after they are admitted.</p>
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