Sunday, July 6th 2008

Change We Can Believe In?

Posted by Josh Curtis @ 10:05 am
Under: Dems, Elections, General, National

Aren’t we all tired of the same old politicians? The ones for whom the stereotypes are tailormade, the ones who say one thing yet do another…the ones who not only say one thing and do another, but who say one thing to one group of people, and then say the exact opposite to another group? I am. And I know there are plenty of others who share my sentiments, as you yourself probably do.

Barack Obama claims to represent a “new kind of politics,” to transcend the typical maneuvering and pandering of politicians that we have grown accustomed to accept as normal and commonplace. He claims that his candidacy embodies the characteristics of “Hope” and “Change We Can Believe In”.

But the message Obama has staked his candidacy on, and the message he has recently portrayed on policy matters, smack of anything but a “new kind of politics.” He is a consummate flip-flopper, an artful master of shifting his policy positions and statements to suit whatever audience he may be addressing, and also an artful master of covering up his pandering intentions with cleverly devised pseudo-explanations which rationalize his shifts–when it comes to certain associations, comments, or policies which are not entirely endearing to the public. The dramatic flip-flops are posited as nothing more than reasonable adjustments, or when he is feeling his humblest, mistakes from which his superior judgment has rescued him.

Let us have a look at some examples of key shifts Barack Obama has made which will illustrate for you that the presumptive Democratic nominee will truly do whatever it is he feels will benefit him politically.

Trinity United Church of Christ: Obama joined the church which was popular among the African-Americans in his community whom he was seeking to court in his aims for political office in Chicago. He was a member of the church for over 20 years, and the pastor who had mentored him there, married him there, and baptized his children there, Obama described as being “like an old uncle.” When video clips surfaced on the internet showing his pastor virulently denouncing the United States of America and blaming this great nation for bringing 9/11 upon itself, Obama sought to mildly distance himself by simply calling the statements “inflammatory,” hoping to sweep the issue of his radical pastor under the rug.

Soon after, the Reverend Wright spoke to the National Press Club defending his “inflammatory” beliefs and describing more in-depth why he thought they were true. Wright, who was not only a pastor but also a good friend and confidant of Obama, shrugged off the senator’s efforts to distance himself from his former pastor. The former pastor remarked:  “Senator Obama is just a politician. He doesn’t mean what he says.”  With those words, Reverend Wright expressed what he had known all along about his former parishioner and good friend: Obama is “just a politician”. Obama “doesn’t mean what he says.”

Not long after, Senator Obama sharply condemned the man who had been his spiritual mentor and father figure for two decades, claiming that Reverend Wright’s comments at the National Press Club (asserting that AIDS was invented by the government to keep down blacks and more) did not reflect anything he had ever heard from the man before. He then promptly resigned from the church, in an effort to once and for all bury the controversial church which had once been a political boon but now served only as an obstacle to his election goals.

Another example of Obama’s political pandering is a fundraising speech he gave to a group of limousine liberals in San Francisco in April. He explained his difficulty in winning over small-town Pennsylvania voters as resulting from economically frustrated Americans who “cling to guns or religion.” Of course, the crowd of Bay Area liberal elites present at the fundraiser loved “Doctor” Obama’s diagnosis of the symptoms of those misguided gun-toting, God-loving Americans. Yet those elitist liberal values which disparage the right to bear arms as well as the unequivocal faith of many Americans do not mesh with the majority of this country.

Yet once again, Barack attempts to smooth over the concerns of voters with a recent ad tailored to middle American states which gives off the impression that he believes in exactly the same things that those “bitter” small-town Pennsylvanians and Kansans do. It casts him and the family who brought him up as stunningly “white.” While playing up his “black” side and going to Rev. Wright’s church suited him in Chicago, it now suits him to emphasize his “whiteness” and cast off all the “blackness” which he was once eager to wear on his sleeve. You can see the new commercial below:

Obama’s New Ad, entitled “Country I Love”

Not only is Obama’s skin color chameleon, apparently his policy positions are, too. Lately the Illinois Senator has made some major switches on positions ranging from abortion to gun rights to free trade to the Patriot Act. Obama has voted in favor of partial birth abortion, has defended Chicago’s handgun ban, decried the “evils” of NAFTA, and vowed to deny immunity to the telecommunications companies who, at the government’s request, helped gather information on the phone habits of possible terrorist suspects. More recently, Obama has asserted that he would not permit abortions for the sake of alleviating “mental distress”; he has also claimed that he agrees with the Supreme Court’s ruling striking down the handgun ban in Washington, D.C. (which would, by principle, overturn the handgun ban that Obama once said he supported for Chicago). Furthermore, he has in recent days proclaimed that he “believes in free trade” and stated he will grant immunity to the telecom companies after all. Numerous key shifts on numerous key issues.

Let’s also not forget his position on public financing. Once trumpeting his promise to use public funds to run his campaign, he now shuns the idea under the mantle of “representing the democratic will,” claiming that he is better representing the political will of “small donors.” Ditching his old campaign promises which positioned him well as a new kind of candidate, he is now glad to throw off the yoke of the system which would limit his spending. Now that he has cash flowing in as if he were a Saudi oil king, he is happy to forget his former pledge and trudge on ahead, breaking his promise to the American public– all so he can win a political office no matter the cost.

Perhaps Obama’s most striking flip-flop, however, lay with his policy on Iraq. Whereas Obama earned much acclaim from the antiwar left for his consistently strong stance against the Iraq War, he has recently come out stating that he would be open to changing his position on the war after his visit with military commanders in Iraq. After riding to the nomination of his party on the coattails of his allegedly consistent, unequivocal opposition to the War in Iraq and repeated promise of withdrawing all combat troops within 16 months, he suddenly leaves open the door to a massive “change” in his policy on Iraq. Of course, he can easily justify this flop, however, by claiming that his trip to Iraq and discussions with generals changed his mind. And his eager followers will still vote for their winsome candidate.

The only “change we can believe in,” when it comes to Senator Obama, is that he will change anything and everything about himself for the sake of political expediency. That is not the quality of a courageous man, and certainly not the quality I would look for in a prospective Commander-in-Chief.

Obama claims to represent a “new kind of politics”, but all of his recent actions clearly represent an old kind of politics–one filled not with “hope,” but with cynicism.

Saturday, May 24th 2008

McCain Has a Chance at a “Blowout” Victory

Posted by Josh Curtis @ 3:54 pm
Under: Elections, GOP, National, Poll

According to a recent article in the Politico, some strategists–Republican and Democrat alike, predict that–despite the strong odds against the Republican Party right now, McCain has a fairly strong chance at taking the Presidential election in November.

This optimistic prediction assumes that Obama will receive the nomination from the Democratic Party, which seems most likely right now. If a lawsuit against the DNC for representation of the Florida Democratic delegates currently under way succeeds, however, it might turn the tide. A brief description of the lawsuit is below:

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/05/22/lawsuit/index.html

McCain’s chances would rely primarily on his wrestling away much-needed swing state electoral votes from Obama, which some pundits think the Arizona senator can accomplish by virtue of his numerous candidate strengths and Obama’s various vulnerabilities. McCain is a decorated war hero, a former prisoner of war, a straight-shooter who speaks his mind and stands by what he believes even if it is unpopular, a maverick who has agitated for change in Washington from the Senate floor for more than twenty years, and a pragmatist who is able to work with both sides of the aisle. Obama, on the other hand, is a left-wing ideologue who has for twenty years attended a church led by an anti-white, anti-American, conspiracy theorist who still believes–despite overwhelming scientific evidence–that there are genetic differences between whites and blacks which make their brains different, and who furthermore believes that the United States government intentionally infected the black community with the AIDS virus. In addition to his long and apparently deep relationship with the radical Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama speaks of bipartisan unity but has the honor (or dishonor) of holding the most liberal voting record in the US Senate. See here:

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

McCain could well capture many states normally up for grabs in election years, including Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and possibly even the traditionally Democratic California. I think this is achievable if voters see the true story of Obama: his staunch liberalism masked by his eloquent calls for unity, hope, and change, they will shy away from supporting him, and instead consider the more moderate, conservative, common-sense, and principled approach of John McCain. The key is showing the electorate the true Obama, while highlighting the remarkable personal journey of Senator John McCain’s life, a life filled with steadfast commitment to public service.

You can read the article on McCain’s potential for a “blowout” victory below:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10585.html

Wednesday, February 27th 2008

The passing of a Founding Father

Posted by Andrew Quinio @ 7:01 pm
Under: Culture, Ideology, National

William F. Buckley, Jr.
1925-2008
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Photo by Pictorial Parade/Getty Images

William F. Buckley, Jr., conservative icon and founder of the National Review passed away today at the age of 82 . He inspired many Patriot writers, past and present, by giving us the intellectual firepower to combat political and cultural liberalism. His work is immortalized by the many generations of Americans who have passionately continued the conservative movement.

I received my first copy of the National Review from my sixth grade history teacher, who may or may not have been conservative, but took profound interest in my political education. Through his columns, Buckley became my virtual instructor in Conservatism 101.

Catch up on your Buckley reading here.

And then watch this great clip of WFB taking on Gore Vidal in 1968. America needs more unapologetic patriots like William F. Buckley.

Saturday, February 16th 2008

$93,000 the cost of Berkeley’s Resolution

Posted by Christopher Page @ 5:48 pm
Under: City of Berkeley, General, National

Security and crowd control around the Berkeley City Council meeting on Tuesday required spending $93,000. From the San Francisco Chronicle’s report:

About 140 Berkeley police officers worked at the protest, which drew more than 2,000 demonstrators from around the country, said Mary Kay Clunies-Ross, public information officer. There were four arrests, all misdemeanors.

The protest was over the City Council’s Jan. 29 statement that the Marines, who have a recruitment center downtown, are “unwelcome intruders.” After 3 1/2 hours of public comment and debate, the council voted early Wednesday to back down from the statement.

This money could have gone toward education or any number of services people say needs funding more then the military. Instead it was squandered as a result of a political statement the City Council backed down from. It also infuriated countless people and gave others a free parking space.

The City Council knew when it passed the original statement last month it would cause a stir. They are no strangers to political controversy and should have been very careful to articulate their stance of support the troops and stop the war, if that is what they wanted to say in the first place. Instead, the City Council opted to call the Marine recruiters “unwelcome intruders” and start a storm of public protest. I wonder, what is the next great piece of legislation to come out of Berkeley’s Peace and Justice Commission?

Tuesday, February 5th 2008

Elections open thread

As anyone who has had any contact with the outside world should know, today is Super Tuesday. I am watching the returns come in with my roommates.

On campus today, Obama stuff and people were everywhere. There was chalking on the sidewalks, people with stickers and tables set up. I would have snapped a picture of people holding signs at Telegraph and Bancroft, but my camera keeps saying lens error 12, 14, or 22.

Beetle offers some more on campus reporting.

Do you have the Time?

Posted by Christopher Page @ 7:25 pm
Under: College, Elections, General, Media, National

Check out Time’s cover. It has Berkeley students.

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In the back on the left is the Patriot’s own editor in chief Alisa Farenzena. In the middle row on the right is consistent Patriot writer and Berkeley College Republican Executive Director Alex Marlow. Even BCR’s External Vice-President Kyle Tibbits made it into the back row. And let’s not forget ASUC External Affairs VP Danny Montes in the back right.

The article talks about the importance of the youth vote. However, the Berkeley students on the cover don’t get any mention in the text of the article, only a couple of lines in the caption of pictures of them hanging out around campus. The picture of Alex does a great job of capturing the dark weather we have had for the last two weeks in Berkeley.

Monday, January 28th 2008

State of the Union

Posted by Megan Sego @ 8:08 pm
Under: GOP, General, National

For this lame-duck State of the Union, I am celebrating in a lighter manner with the State of the Union drinking game (patent pending). For those republicans uninterested in taking themselves seriously (and who are of age) I reccommend choosing a few of Bush’s favorite words and get yourself set with some drinks. For the occasion, I am enjoying Lone Star beer, which bills itself as the “national” beer of Texas, and Busch, while liveblogging the speech.

Stay tuned for notable quotables.

Bush suprises before the speech even starts, by rubbing a bald man’s head during the handshake-period on the way to the stage.

“Since then, our country has been tested in many ways we could not imagine”

“we recognize our responsibilities and are determined to meet them” (accompanied by commentary about bipartisan unity in congress)

“we have unfinished business, and the American people expect it to get done”

Economy
“We must trust in the abilities of free peoples to make wise decisions” (trust people with their own money)
He commented on the long run vs short run in our economy; and how in the long run the economy will turn out ok.
Taxes: Letting taxs relief expire is a tax hike. Hillary doesn’t look amused. “Make the tax relief permament”; “spend tax dollars wisely”–mentions eliminating porkbarrel spending.

“The people’s trust in their government is undermined by earmarks”–”I asked you to stop slipping earmarks into [things] that never come to a vote”. Promises to veto this spending. “Congress should debate them in the open, and hold a public vote” (the Democrat side actually stood for this one.)

Healthcare
“We must trust patients and doctors to make good decisions”–one applauding audience member. (Bush’s word of the night seems to be “Empower”. Also, the camera crew seems to be zeroing in on Obama and other blacks in the audience).
“Prevent junk medical lawsuits”; Congress shouldn’t decide on medical issues.

Education
“We must demand results from our schools”–will he mention No Child’s success? “No one can deny it’s results” (hrm…) “African-American and hispanic students posted all-time high [scores]”
“Congress: The No Child Left Behind Act is a bipartisan measure and we owe it to [students] to further this effort” (No democrat applause). “Help liberate poor children”

Trade
Open up markets; “I thank the congress for approving an agreement with Peru”; asks for approvement of deals with Colombia, etc. “Support good jobs for the finest workers in the world; those who’s products say “Made in the USA”

6:24 First mention of “Terror”. This is a surprise to me. Also, a surprise to see John Kerry in the audience. I mean, we know senators would be there, but still!

“Future of energy security: we must trust in the creative genius of American entrepreneurs”
Environment: “reduce consumption of oil”; fund new projects that cut down carbon emissions.
Nucular! He finally said it; both the pronuonciation, and the mention of the technology make me smile. “Eventually stop the spread of greenhouse gasses”. “This will only be a success if…it gives no free rides”. Awww global climate change? (Hillary could clap for that)

Government
“Funding is essential to keeping our competitive edge in the…physical sciences” (Woo!) I am glad he is harping on the intuitive and competitive nature of American science and invention. He mentions cell research “without the disruption of human life”. “We must ensure that all life is treated with the dignity it deserves”; no buying, selling, or cloning of human life. (That’s something everyone can applaud, apparently).

“The Constitution means what it says” (the camera pans to stone-faced justices). “The Senate should give each (judge) a prompt, up-or-down vote”.

“Armies of compassion”. Woah, there’s a new one. Mention of New Orleans; everyone can stand up for that.

“Two things this body has failed to address: spending, and immigration”. Right on! “Come up with a bipartisan solution to save these programs for our children”. Mentions increased worksite enforcement for immigration which appears to be working, “ended border catch-and-release”. Still wants a worker program, but I don’t think thats happening. “must be resolved in a way that reflects both our laws and our highest ideals”.

Enemies abroad
“We trust that people, given the chance, will pursue a life of freedom and peace”
Ukraine, Afghanistan, Iraq: “These images of liberty have inspired us” (Man, cheney has a poker face!).
“Lebanon and Pakistan have had beloved leaders taken”; mentions images of terror since 9/11, calls terrorists “evil men”. “We will deliver justice to our enemies” (At this comment, my friend says, ‘That’s the Bush I know!’)

“In the long run, men and women who are free to choose their own destinies will reject terror”.
Mentions positive signs in Iraq/Afghanistan; schools, hospitals, etc. “Train the Afghan soldiers” to lead their own country.
Iraq: “One year ago, our enemies were succeeding…so we reviewed our stragety and changed course”. Working with the Iraqi forces; sheiks/army. “Improvements in security were followed by improvements in daily life”. “Grassroots movements includes more than 80 thousand Iraqi’s”

“When we met last year, some said this was impossible”. Take that, Murtha/Reid! “Today, it is Al Qaeda that is searching for safe passage”. “But among the terrorists, there is no doubt. AQ is on the run in Iraq, and will be defeated”. Soldiers are beginning to come home; this is a credit to our troops and commanders.

“Soldiers and sailors, Arimen, Marines and Coast guardmen: in the past year you have done everything we asked for and more. We are proud of your accomplisments, and with the American people as our witness, we make a solemn pledge: you will have all you need to protect our nation” (Some of the Dem’s are standing; it looks like the wave over there.) “Any further draw-down will depend on the contition in Iraq, and the reccommendations of our commanders”.

“Time and momentum” seem to favor the enemy; “My fellow Americans; we will not rest until this emeny has been defeated” “Years from now, people will look back and see that people rose to the moment…and left behind a more hopeful region anda safer America”. Shifts to Israel: “A holy land with a democratic Israel and a democratic Palestine”.

“Seems the Iranian regime is there to oppose it”. I was sure this was going to be mentioned. “Iran: we have no quarrel with you…we look forward to the day when you have your freedom. Suspend your nuclear enrichment at once. Cease your support for terror abroad”

“To protect America, we need to know who the terrorists are talking to”; talking about legislation/intelligence. “Congress must ensure that the vital flow of information is preserved”. “The time to act is now”; standing ovation from the Republican side.

International issues
Belarus, Burma (Myanmar?). Deliver aid to countries with disasters; asking for funding to fight global hunger. “Break the cycle of famine”. Fight disease; Malaria, AIDS, etc. (Some interesting spirit-fingers going on at that rostrum…)

“We have a responsibility to prove for [soldiers]”; child care, education benefits (transfer to spouses or children), health care, etc. “Soldiers support our nation, inspire our nation, and tonight we honor them” (delayed reaction on the applause there!).

Reference “We the people”; “Our founders wagered that a great nation could be built…let us go forth and do our business”

My elementary analyis: He got the economy out of the way up front, to make room for his favorite subject, the war and international affairs. While I cringed a little at the climate change/education mentions, he did very well at the end. It was nice to get away from the present you/me/us focus and look at the past, and give some perspective.

Monday, September 17th 2007

WSJ: Haas is #2 Business School

Posted by Christopher Page @ 7:21 pm
Under: Media, National, UC Berkeley

Today the Wall Street Journal came out with rankings for the best MBA programs in the country. Berkeley’s own Haas School of Business is #2.

From the Haas Newsroom:

The Haas School jumped to #2, up from #5 last year, in the 2007 Wall Street Journal ranking of MBA programs published on September 17. This marks the strongest showing of the school’s full-time Berkeley MBA program in any major, popular ranking.

A few words from Dean Campbell via Haas Newsroom:

“We are absolutely delighted at this vote of confidence from our recruiters,” said Dean Tom Campbell. “Our students are among the best in the world, and our career services staff has developed excellent programs to provide the best possible service to students and to recruiters. We are very pleased to see that our efforts resonate with employers.”

While the rating is for the MBA program, its success bodes well for the undergraduate business program. I know many (maybe even too many) people at Haas and today both the students and professors have a lot to be proud of.

Saturday, June 16th 2007

Immigration bill discussion

Posted by Megan Sego @ 5:19 pm
Under: General, Ideology, Law, National

The immigration bill is currently resting in the Senate, thought Harry Reid intends to revive it next week. There are a lot of problems with the bill, however some of the aspects are good, but I take more issue with how the debate is being presented. A lot of the discussion is missing some important points, and instead of continuing to yell at my TV, I’ll list a few.

As I said, the bill has some good amendments and some bad, but most of the border security and beaurocratic measures already exist, and aren’t enforced. This bill is adding good-intentioned layers of uselessness, and doesn’t target the real problem, which is that rules aren’t being enforced. Rather than spending the money this bill intends to fill social programs for the potential recipients of Z-visas, enforcement should be beefed up.

Along the lines of enforcement, there’s another point that’s been floating around that “we can’t round up and deport 12 million people” and it’s true, it would be a huge hassle. But we can enforce companies not hiring illegals by raising (and enforcing in every case, no exceptions) the fines. Also, if companies were forced to pay at least minimum wage there would be no incentive to continue hiring those who will “work for less”. If companies actually feared the consequence of hiring illegals, they would stop doing it, and there wouldnt be any jobs for illegals. Without recourse, the hope is that they would go home and try to re-enter legally. That’s just one way a little more enforcement could save us from spending a ton in “deportation”.

Another thing that bothers me is the discussion that this bill gives a provision so that “criminals” wouldn’t be able to get Z-visas. There’s a problem here with the illegals already in this country: because they’ve crossed our border, they are already criminals. They shouldn’t be rewarded for breaking the law with a visa. Those who are in line, waiting and abiding by the laws, should.

Also, there is no reason we as a country need to feel like it’s our duty to cater to illegal immigrants because they are “only looking for a better life”. They are absolutely looking for a better life, and I support giving asylum to people threatened by despotic governments, but the problem these people are escaping is not the US’s fault. The fault lies with Mexico, which is a country that is still developing and is going to encounter problems, but still has a duty to it’s people. If people were streaming from the US to another country, that should be a good indication of SOME kind of problem, right? Mexico has some issues that it needs to deal with, and of course we can help as a neighboring nation (and I’m not going to get into that now because there are all sorts of issues just within that statement). But the US and the American people are not beholden to immigrants; we are willing to help but not to hold their hand and we shouldn’t be expected to.

I hope you like my elementary analysis. Until next post!

Thursday, June 14th 2007

Happy Flag Day

Posted by Megan Sego @ 12:32 pm
Under: General, National

Another partiotic pro-America post sure to piss off liberals and commenters alike. We are flying the flag today, albeit slightly incorrectly due to the lack of a proper flagpole holder, but I’m sure Old Glory will forgive us. Also, happy birthday to the US Army, which turns 232 today.

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Days like today make me increasingly grateful to live in the US where I don’t have to worry about being killed by a rival political party, like in Gaza or Syria, or stoned to death because I want to wear a swim suit, like in Iran.

Friday, June 8th 2007

Immigration Bill open thread

Posted by Megan Sego @ 3:05 am
Under: General, Law, National

With the immigration bill dying (or maybe just resting?) in Washington right now, it’s time for some thoughts. Is this bill a good thing? Necessary? Too much? Not enough?

My view: as a compromise bill, no one is going to be completely happy. Also, with a leaky boat you patch the leaks first, right? Most of the measures I have heard of so far (and this thing is long, so that’s probably not much) would be great if they were enforced, but I see nothing to motivate a Republican or Democrat administration to actually enforce.

How ’bout you guys? What do you think?

Monday, May 28th 2007

Happy Memorial Day

Posted by Megan Sego @ 1:17 pm
Under: General, National

american flag in everett

I will be thinking of some Soldiers, past and present, today. My paternal Grandfather served in the Navy, and my maternal Grandfather in the Army (as was his first wife). My aunt and uncle were both until recently career military Soldiers, and my cousin is in basic right now. My mom’s side has a long line of Soldiers going back to the American Civil War. Also, I have some close friends Brady, Mike, Gordon, and Jeremy, who are serving right now, either becoming officers, preparing to go to Iraq or already stationed there. Thanks guy (and gals) for everything you’ve done and are prepared to do.

Wednesday, May 16th 2007

Facebook to Falwell: Burn

Posted by Christopher Page @ 2:41 am
Under: Culture, General, National, Tech

On Tuesday Jerry Falwell died. When a person dies, what would you do? Pray for him, have a moment of silence, talk about his views, or ignore him? The other choice is to make a facebook group. Both fans and critics of Falwell have taken the fight online; I did not know people cared this much.

Some of the groups, like
Ann Coulter and Jerry Falwell had a baby and named it Satan
were around before his death, while others with names like Burn in Hell, Jerry Falwell
are recent additions. There are many variations in names involving Falwell, hell, and burn. However, there are only a few stock pictures of him from google. There is also a Berkeley based group An Anti-Tribute to Jerry Falwell.

From the profile:

Death is never a nice thing — that’s just one issue on which Falwell and we differ. Still, the world just might be a better place with Jerry in the grave. Here’s hoping that he understands the extent of his depravity after a quick chat with St. Peter in front of the pearly gates.

And — here’s hoping that if he gets into heaven, we don’t.

For whatever level of respect or hatred you have for Falwell, there is a facebook group for you.

I have not followed everything Falwell has said and done, but some of his comments are over the top. I would have hoped the people who disagreed with him would know better then of any us that you don’t change anyone’s mind or get anywhere with negative rhetoric. Lets be better people, even if Falwell was not.

Tuesday, May 15th 2007

Second GOP primary debate

Posted by James Fullmer @ 10:58 pm
Under: Elections, GOP, General, National, Open Forum

I actually missed it, and I missed most of the second showing, so I won’t have too much to say until I watch it online. But if any of y’all have anything interesting to say, consider the comment section an open thread.

By the way, I like Alan Colmes a lot, but he asked what has to be the single least well thought out question I’ve ever heard asked in a post-debate interview. Talking to Sen. McCain, regarding Iraq, he asked the following question (emphasis mine, slightly paraphrased):

“You know, one big argument people have is that if we leave Iraq, they’ll just follow us over here. They said that during Vietnam, too, and of course that didn’t happen. I mean, what are they going to do? What, are they going to hop on planes and fly over here?